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Kev -

"It stands for nothing because it defines itself by others it likes less and then says it is not like that. It does not actually say what it is."

Simply the best description of the Conservative movement as it stands in this country today.

You make a compelling argument regarding the poor quality of leadership in this country, however I feel that you give short shrift to Levant's connections to the PMO through his employer Quebecor. While he is not advising policy, he most certainly is playing the role of a shill.

Ben (The Tiger) -

Re "ethical oil" -- it's an argument meant to sway the same US Congress that winks at "clean coal".

That's all.

Re domestic critics -- we sell asbestos to the Third World, we drill offshore and no-one's going to tell Danny Williams he can't.

Canadian domestic critics won't shut down the oil sands.

Alan -

The suggestion that it is an "argument" avoids the question of whether it is policy. It is insufficient to say we drill off shore (largely safely) and that we sell asbestos (largely unsafely). Things are not solely relative. Again, what does this tell us about conservatives stand for? It has to be more than money and votes. The sad thing is that I think most grass roots conservatives do actually have values and principles that I may not share but that are within the ball park but their own leaders either can't or don't dare enunciate.

Jay Currie -

The oil sands kill the occasional flock of ducks. They emit the noted plant sustaining gas, CO2. Once in a while they have an industrial accident. They contribute billions to the Canadian economy. They do not finance terror.

Compared to Saudi or Iran or Russia - pretty darned ethical. Better to buy our oil than much of the other oil on offer.

Oddly, the oil from the tar sands does not - any more than any other oil - cause cancer.

We should certainly stop mining and selling asbestos which does. But conflating the issues is kinda pathetic.

Alan -

So, you agree with me. We have to judge the science for itself and can't pretend that conflating politics with implications of mineral resources is pathetic.

Oh, you didn't. How silly of you. Disagreeing with the connecting of the democratic state to the mining processes is only as pathetic as agreeing with it. They are either part of a discourse or not. Saying only one side of the discussion is rationally connected is just weird.

Alan -

Not exactly the mentally ill person some are describing. Unless being at the fringe is now a medical condition.

Pok -

At a more fundamental level, when did it become the job of the federal government to build a CSR portfolio for tar sands oil? And more specifically, when did it become the job of the federal environment minister to declare the whole affair as the victim of bad PR with out even a nod to the environmental monitoring review process that his department just embarked on and which has not even come close to publishing a conclusion. Minister Kent could not have crafted a better statement to annouce his intentions to feign objectivity and ignore the fundamental role of a minister of the environment.

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