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Ben (The Tiger) -

Harper speaks like that when he's angry.

Shows that he wanted to win the vote -- all that talk about "oh, we'll just win those seats next time" was just self-comfort.

No, it was so close -- past second reading -- and now so far away...

Alan -

He should keep his cool so as not to look so silly.

Ben (The Tiger) -

I'm guessing part is annoyance -- even after four years as PM, he's nowhere near the power the last guys with his tenure had. Chretien, Mulroney, Trudeau -- they all could get legislation passed almost at will. Not this PM.

Hans -

Harper's talk was carefully crafted rhetoric linking the closeness of the vote for "abolition" to "people of the regions" (whoever they are -- Is this another restatement of Canada as a community of communities?). This vote was win-win for Harper because now he has a wedge issue with which to mobilize people who buy his rhetoric. I would be interested to see how many Tory MPS did not attend this vote.

Ben (The Tiger) -

One at most.

144 Tories + Andre Arthur + Helena Guergis + 6 Dippers = 152.

There were 151 nay votes, and 153 yea votes to kill the bill.

Even had that one extra shown (or maybe Arthur voted to keep the registry?), it was a done deal.

Hans -

That scratches the proof, anyway, if not the theory....

Ben (The Tiger) -

Well, you can argue that going scorched earth was calculated to get the opposition's backs up and save the registry -- but they didn't have to give it to him...

Hans -

Harper's good at painting the opposition into a corner. And they are not good out stepping outside their pre-scripted dialectic. Tha't why he can get these kind of win-win situations for himself. Because he knows how they are going react/behave.

Ben (The Tiger) -

Is that a prediction that Harper takes the next election?

(I'll predict he wins a plurality of seats. Not sure that's enough to keep him in power. Once the coalition has been talked to death, the opposition might figure, well, no cost to actually doing it...)

Hans -

I'll reserve making a prediction until its clearer that there will be an election. (if it happened tomorrow, though, I would agree about Harper getting a plurality.)

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