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Ben (The Tiger) -

Re the Tea Party -- they don't _have_ to work within the GOP, but if they want to elect people with conservative principles, they'd probably better.

It'd be different if there were no primaries, like in Canada -- in that case, the GOP would be dead and about to be replaced by a "American Tea Party" in 2010 and 2012.

But primaries mean that this energy can be channelled into existing entities. See a few GOP congressmen and governors having tough primary fights over the next few cycles -- they'll either have to respond to the concerns of the new activists or get defeated.

Alan -

Or "the concerns of the new activists" will be crushed like all populist movements are crushed. Don't worry about Limbaugh when it happens - and it will because no one gives up power in that way. Rush'll blow with the wind again and adjust the vernacular to suit his needs.

Jay Currie -

I rather like the first bullet.

Ben, I agree that if they want to elect people the Tea Partiers will have to work inside the Republican Party, but you may remember Robert Heinlein's observation on voting (and I quote from memory) " you have to vote, there may not be a candidate that you want to vote for, but there is certain to be a candidate you need to vote against".

I am pretty sure that is the Tea Party stance in a sentence.

Ben (The Tiger) -

Jay --

Absolutely. We just disagree on who they are, from time to time. :p

Alan --

Sure. But the Tea Party folks really are just disaffected conservative Republicans.

I think Bachmann has it right...

Alan -

I disagree in the same what I disagree that Al Qaeda is not a long term threat. There is not administrative function, not plan to take on a role in the community. Just negation. Civic medium right wing nihilists.

Ben (The Tiger) -

You keep on using the language of the Obama administration -- "The Party of No", "right-wing nihilists".

It's not working down south...

Alan -

Well, if you are 100% of down south it doesn't work. If you were to present actual plans and not negativity and vision statements as the content of team party discontent you may have a point. But you haven't done that.

Details and practicality, Ben. These are the keys to a good argument even if they make for a boring rally.

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