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Ben (The Tiger) -

Alan, the Dems have been pitching that "Party of No" label since last March.

It isn't working -- last night should show that, at the very least.

Being against Obama's agenda works just fine -- for now. Just like being against Bush's agenda worked wonders for the Dems in 2006. (And there are plenty of things the GOP is for, and time in the wilderness has been useful for refining it -- you just don't agree with those stances. Which is fine.)

When an explicitly affirmative platform will be needed is 2012 -- and that's the job of the next presidential nominee.

Alan -

So what is the policy? Please forward details.

The "party of no" is exactly where conservatives are at. It may be necessary at this point but as the Reform movement morphing into Harper shows, it doesn't stand for much in terms of effective policy change.

Ben (The Tiger) -

In principle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Constitution_of_Liberty

In practice, well, it can be applied in a number of ways. Education reforms (vouchers, charter schools, etc. -- watch Christie in NJ), tax cuts, and... well, the third rail that needs tackling sometime is entitlements reform.

Alan -

Vision. Statement.

You attack the Dems for having a plan on health reform that has too many words and doesn't make sense. Ideological vision statements don't make for good law. I thought the GWB years were proof enough of that for anyone. So what is the actual plan for anything? Not the topics as conservatives like to trot out but the actual plan?

The only actual practicing conservative I see these days is NY Governor Paterson.

Stumack -

"...they actually stand for nothing so much as they stand against things..." Sounds more like the Liberals to me, not the Tories, Alan. The Liberals have become nothing more than the party of "not Harper".

Alan -

See, that's what I mean. They are so into negation they are even "not not".

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