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David Janes -

Oooo, I'll be back tomorrow to comment on this one lol

Alan -

Have a good slug of maple syrup and put on your tweed vest.

PofK -

WL MacKenzie King brought Canada in and out of the fight against naziism.
St. Laurent brought Canada into Korea.
Chretien sent us into Afghanistan.

Borden was there for WW1 but was was that really about?

As for that vision against mushy collectivism; thank you Mr. Taylor for clarifying that the neo-conservatives do not subscribe to the values of citizenship and samaritanism that built Canada as distinct from the USA.

Alan -

Not to mention distinct from Peru.

I think the silliest thing is the degree of abstraction from the details of history it takes to even assert such a take on history.

PofK -

Yes Peru and many others whose systems of values led to conquest rather than treaty and trade.

David Janes -

Now this is just weird.

I love PofK's accusations of un-Canadianness, plus the use of the scary "neo-" prefix. Woooo, is it Halloween already?

The only way history can be viewed, I think Al, is an abstraction. Otherwise it's just a bunch of stuff that happened, or a map as big as the geography.

Alan -

Degrees of abstraction are one rhetorical tool but have to be handled with skill. The current CPC line that they are the party of "history" while the Grits are the party of Trudeau and ahistory is bizarre and transparent. If Ottawa had not been marginalized over the last few decades, this would appear popularly as something of a national joke.

But I agree - there is no such thing as unCanadian. That is another construct only the current crop of Tories seem to be able to use with a straight face.

Ben (The Tiger) -

The Tories were the natural governing party until (a) they hanged Louis Riel and (b) they took down and destroyed Sir Hector-Louis Langevin, their Public Works minister, who hoped to succeed Macdonald. (And probably was best-qualified to do so.)

Borden won with an alliance with Quebec nationalists. Diefenbaker won large enough in English Canada not to need it in 1958, but he allied with the Duplessis machine. And Mulroney won as a native son and with Quebec nationalists.

I'm not quite sure what Harper is up to -- he may now be trying to win without more of Quebec than he now has. And with the Beatles vote.

And who knows? Anything can happen.

Hans -

Its part of the Tories latest attempts at revisionist history. See the book from which Taylor gets his talking/blogging points, from a top Harper adviser: http://www.amazon.ca/Fearful-Symmetry-Canadas-Founding-Values/dp/1554701880. Its all part of Harper's plan to mane Canada more "conservative", whatever that is....

PofK -

Well the last time I checked the conservatives are neither the PCs nor the Reform Party so I think neo is a reasonable prefix.

Mr Taylor begs to imply that the CPC value set is aligned with that "pioneer spirit" that built Canada. I didn't say that the CPC is uncanadian, just that Mr. Taylor's hearts and minds soundbite is dubious when you look at the history of Canada that has been guided by a lot of mushy collectivism and much less nationalistic yee-ha!

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