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Hans -

Sincerely, I find your explorations of American regional food studies fascinating because, as you indicate, it says as much about the various regional cultures where these different preferences occur as it does about Canada where these differences are, apparently, non-existent.

Alan -

Yet, I bet if we lined up cheddar cheeses from across Canada you may find local Saskatchewan versions different from the local Wilton Extra Old we eat here. I think this is more about not being proud of local in Canada than the food itself. And I think it differs from the 100 mile diet as well. No 100 mile diet is going to include fries with the works or seaweed pie, those Prince Co PEI delicacies.

Una -

I love your posts on American food too. Perogies and cabbage rolls are different (better) in Saskatchewan than in, say, Manitoba or Ontario.

Alan -

The former CBC show "The Great Canadian Food Show" had great hope.. except that it had to be Canadian food. We can't live in a country, for God's sake, that might actually have "Ontario" peaches or "eastern Quebec" cheese without getting all in a sweat about politics. The fact that most craft beer in Canada is barred from intra-provincial sales is incredibly telling. "Canadian" beer is harmonized lifeless pee. Can't have any small local producer showing Canada up.

P of K -

It's an interesting phenomenon of difference between Canadian and US people manifest in food tradition that would benefit (or at least be an interesting read in Macleans) from some expert analysis.

I suspect that the strength of local preferences within the US is somewhat related to a more regional outlook. In Canada we may be more globally focussed and therefore prone to undervaluing our own local ways. In the US the preservation of those local ways may have a lot more to do with a lesser degree of global awareness or even a degree more xenophobia (they did have a civil war after all).

Alan -

What makes you say Canada is globally focused? I think we are nationally homogenized in food and retail and culture but have little sense of how people actually live elsewhere. Small city and town level US (at least in the east) seems to have a far more diverse local outlook than I ever thought.

So, I can imagine going to Cinncinnati OH or Ithaca NY or Burlington VT or even Scranton PA and finding something different. But I can't imagine finding that much different in Brampton, Brockville, Fredericton or Red Deer. Maybe that is wrong but we don't exactly celebrate our local.

P of K -

Perhaps globally aware is a better term. Is there a difference in how Canadians and Americans identify themselves that leads to a more diverse and expressed variety of local food culture? I think you would find a similar situation in the UK or western europe - lots of diversity within relatively short distances. Perhaps its a function of population densities?

Alan -

What makes you think Canadians are globally aware?

I think it is a function of community. So much government is left local in certain US states that they still have coherent communities running themselves. Eastern Ontario and towards the Atlantic may have degrees of that to one point or another. Maybe the working theory is a community that knows itself will feed itself and then known itself through how it feeds itself.

I don't know how much of that is left in the UK with the general social disruptions caused by homogenization there. No fox hunting, no policing of swaths of public housing. The Jamie Oliver shows on school meals were pretty shocking. Staying in downtown Toronto this week was pretty shocking, too.

Una -

I think the difference is population. Retail outlets argue that our market is small so our prices are higher. It could also be that our market is too small to support retail diversity except in restaurants and botique retailers. Some restaurants do showcase local food in Canada, Sask perogies, BC fish and fruit taco, prince edward county cheese...

Phil -

I appreciate your posts on regional food in the US, as it constantly reminds me here in Syracuse of the cool local stuff we have. The US also has a trend toward bland national consolidation--a reflection of our economic addiction to chain stores. I usually vacation in Ontario, so I'm also searching out the local up in the Kingston/Rideau area.

Alan -

I am working on a theory, Phil, that there is a bi-national regional culture / food thing in Easlakia. Apparently there are cheese curds only so far south in northern NY, for example. But then again we would not have boiled dinners or white hots.

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