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TRex -

Good post. My Russian wife asked me just last week during the run-up to the US election if Canada had any history of slavery and I too quickly replied in the negative. Other than that I've tried to be even handed as regards answering questions about race relations in Canada but it's hard to explain to foreigners without their eyes glazing over. Especially to a Russian Jew and my Japanese friends.

Ben (The Tiger) -

Our history -- for good and for ill -- is inextricably intertwined with the Brits. Their bad is our bad, and their good is our good. (Well, except that we got on the path to banning slavery 14 years before they did, and 40 years before it was banned in the Empire.)

Ben (The Tiger) -

Not majority -- four years after the age of majority -- 25.

Alan -

I agree we were tied to the UK but I think we may be able to say that there were far earlier pressures in Canada to push the Empire as opposed to being shackled to it. Joe Howe, the greatest Canadian, teaches us that. Through the vintage base ball research I see a huge swing to pro-US locally from 1837 when the militia was called out for fear of an invasion to 1870s when we were literally partying with them in the streets. Upper Canadian's shift from first generation slave owners of the 1780s to their apparent rapid rejection of the practice within a decade is quite interesting. I wonder what happened in the rest of Canada?

Hans -

Even with an early abolishment of slavery, the number of african-americans coming to British North America with British Loyalists meant that issues of racism persisted in Canada. Al, you'd be familiar with some descendents of these folks in Annapolis Valley, Truro, Cole Harbour and the Halifax Dartmouth area. Even in PEI, there was a tiny history of slaves, ex-slaves and their descendents and the issues they dealt with. The chief source is a book called "Black Islanders" by Jim Hornby.

Alan -

I remember a piece on CBC PEI about a decade ago on the African-Canadian experience on PEI and how most/all families after WWII basically moved to Halifax or elsewhere to join larger communities.

sean -

There was for many years in Canada, unofficial slavery as well, indebted servitude. Families who worked as slaves to pay off sponsors who aided them financially in getting to Canada.

My family home in which I grew up was an mid 1800s era structure. In the upper floor of the main residence portion, was a small apartment with washroom facilities that my father occupied from the 1940s onward. It was the "old servants quarters" and had a large wooden door that had a large deadbolt lock, on the outside. People who lived there and worked in the home were not officially slaves, but they couldn't leave of their own free will in the evenings.

Alan -

Hey - that is another post.

sean -

My bad. Proper term is: Indentured Servitude.

TRex -

Hans: *Annapolis Valley, Truro, Cole Harbour and the Halifax Dartmouth area* heh, I used to live in all those places when I was graduating from high school and entering DRVS so as to stay out of trouble. If I knew then what I know now...

Alan -

TRex: I am a CEC-er. You?

Josh -

I wouldn't be that sanguine about race relations in NS, at least in some rural areas like the Valley (or, for that matter, the Mountain). There were segregated schools here until the 50s at least, and the name Africville ought to ring a bell for most junior high school students.

Alan -

Into the 60's in Truro as I recall, though I moved there in the latter 70's. You make something of an excellent extension of the point I was making way up top when the CBC-voice told me that all was so nice in Canada and so bad in the US.

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