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sean liddle -

Biofuel proiduced by farmed materials is so 2004.

Anaerobic composting/digestion of organic materials produces methane without the need for using huge tracts of land (said in my best Michael Palin) that should really be used to feed people. Its not like we don't produce a gazillion tonnes of organic wastes, and frankly, although mass municipal composting is nice to reduce 60% of the material going to landfills, we really don't need all that much compost for the City flowerbeds. (Not that municipalities are copnsidering composting for anything more than monetary reasons.)

Add to the pile the industrial organics and BAM, lots of workable fuel that is completely renewable.

Ben (The Tiger) -

Funny... I guess it did tie the food market to the energy market. Not so great after all.

I'm firmly pro-nuclear -- and that goes against my political philosophy. It takes a massive capital investment and therefore state ownership or guarantees, but it's clean (-ish), cheap, and uses Canadian resources. (We have, what, a quarter of the world's uranium?)

On the bright side, the rising food prices give us an opportunity to cut agriculture subsidies...

Ben (The Tiger) -

(I meant, it's cheap once we have the plants built.)

sean liddle -

I am pro nuclear as well, always have been. I am however concerned that whenever humans seem to manage things as large as a nuclear plant, corners get cut, people ignore proper management of environmental issues and things do south fast. State run non-profit driven nukes keep cost low. State mandated management of waste ensures corners are not cut. Maintaining production as a non-unionized essential service keeps a lot of problems away as well. Supplement it all with as much wind, solar and hydro/tidal as you can build and bam, utopia.

Mike C -

Seems like we will all love algae before long.

Previous attempts to post this have been rejected as spam; must be something to do with loving algae.

The 'one-tenth of New Mexico' comment is helpful, I suppose, in describing the scale. But then again, I don't know how big New Mexico really is. Lomborg makes similar comments about solar - we could put solar panels on 2.5% of the Sahara and take care of our 21st century energy needs. It tells you the answer is out there, but no one should ever think that one-tenth of New Mexico or 2.5% of the Sahara will be used this way.

Now, if you take that algae idea to the Sahara...

Alan -

Sorry about that. All of Jay's posts are getting caught. You guys may live on the same IP as a big spammer. I am deleting about 100 a day behind the scenes. But now we get to compare your posting styles.

Mike Campbell -

Yes I am pleased that first one wasn't lost forever.

Ben (The Tiger) -

I'm sorry, I just have to add -- one example of a state-run, no-strike nuclear plant: Chernobyl.

(Yes, unfair to cherry-pick. But state-run enterprises are just as likely to have screw-ups.)