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Ben (The Tiger) -

I voted for the asterisk, too.

It's justice -- excellence recognized, but with a caveat.

Bonds should be in the Hall of Fame once he retires, too.

Alan -

So should Pete Rose...and Joe Jackson, too. Each with their own asterisk.

Ben (The Tiger) -

Oh, but if you let Charlie Hustle into the HoF, you'd have to let in <i><b>everyone</b></i> who has 4200 hits...

Alan -

If they are deserving. You will recall that we discussed the rules for getting in the Hall of Fame in November 2006. Maybe they all fail on "integrity" but it would be interesting to canvass all decisions as to who is in and how is out based on that criteria. Is the integrity of baseball itself such that it can show itself to have been a model?

Temujin -

I'd hazard a guess that everyone in the hall of fame "cheated" in some way at one time or another throughout their career. The difference is that they either never got caught, or it wasn't blown up into a spectacle like it has been with Bonds.

How many batters have used excessive pine tar on their bat over the past seventy-five years or so?

ry -

Excessive pine tar? Look, a good grip doesn't let you turn jam pitches that would be pop-ups to second into hr. Steroids does. Steroids also allow you to take that jam pitch and turn it into a basehit when otherwise you're an out.

Besides, the pine tar rule was simply there because one owner was a cheapskate who didn't want to have to buy a bunch of balls. And, in case you didn't notice, George Brett was called out and fined for his pinetar usage. Do the crime pay the time.

Sure, maybe, everyone at one point in time took liberties. But not systematically over a decade---ala 'Roidhead Bonds. Stealing signs while at second and relaying them to the hitter is technically cheating. But there's no way anyone of good conscience can say that that's the same thing as taking steriods. No way.

I'll never be comfortable with Bonds being in the Hall. That's like calling Nixon the best president ever in my book.

Douglas -

I want to live to see a baseball in lunar orbit.

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