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Rick Pali -

Okay, wait a sec. Is this per diem the entirety of his compensation? The way I've always understood the meaning of 'per diem' is that it's for extra expenses. If your employer sends you to China for a week to meet a client, you still get your normal pay, but in addition, you get a per diem to cover meals and other incidental expenses.

I ask this because the lawyer and the mechanic get no per diem. Rather they just get paid. If this is Manley's pay, I don't see any story. If it is his per diem in the sense I understand it, there is a story. What expenses does he have to the total of $1200 a day? Heck, he could go to Afghanistan and still not blow through that kind of money.

sean liddle -

If thats his standard daily rate for an 8 hour day it certainly isn't off base as far as a senior consultant charge our rate goes.

Gordo -

To quote the Wiki Oracle: "Per diem, is Latin for "per day" or "for each day". It usually refers to the daily rate of any kind of payment. It may also refer to a specific amount of money that an organization allows an individual to spend per day, to cover living and travelling expenses in connection with work."

Gordo -

And no, there's no story here.

There might be in my captcha, though: "surprising booby"

BWAHAHAHA

David Janes -

I got "fur pick", which may be better than the "surprising booby".

My understanding of the phrase "per-diem" is to meam cover expenses, not salary. I think the G&M is using the term incorrectly.

If it's his salary per-diem, it's not that great a deal in the big scheme of things. If I was still doing business consulting, I'd be up there and I'm by no means a top-tier charger.

If it's an expenses per-diem -- which are often made tax free -- it's be pretty over the top; the equivalent of 500,000/year bonus.

Alan -

I worked on the Spicer Commission for the Mulroney Government back in, what, 1991? I was the student representative for Nova Scotia. I got a per diem and that was it.

"Floral talk."

Ben (The Tiger) -

This gets back to the old argument over whether politicians should be paid more.

When I was little, and I only saw the salaries that public servants made, I was outraged at the thought. Now that I know what salaries most are giving up in the private sector, I think it's a fair point.

"only heartfelt"

Alan -

But this is Manley the consultant. So he is getting paid for services, not as a representative of anything. I wonder what his actual hourly rate is. The real story is that he is giving up half his work days to provide services to the nation at a great discount.

"Government arrives"

David Janes -

"finn tightly". Christ, this stuff just writes itself. Why even have discussion topics anymore?

Temujin -

<i>When I was little, and I only saw the salaries that public servants made, I was outraged at the thought. Now that I know what salaries most are giving up in the private sector, I think it's a fair point.</i>

Except in the private sector those services are requested and paid for by the same person using his/her own funds. Whereas with government...

Alan -

<i>...Except in the private sector those services are requested and paid for by the same person using his/her own funds...</i><p>Maybe I am not getting your point but you do know there are private sector bureaucracies with procurement officers, right?

Ben (The Tiger) -

Was just here to read replies, not to post one, but I had to share:

"perform debating"

Jay Currie -

Cheap compared to private sector, about as much as can be disclosed to the Canadian public without it becoming an issue in itself.

The boys down at Timmy's are not going to stand for "that Murdstone" making four grand a day. No siree. (Another bit of Canadian imbecility brought to you by "Use your Captcha in a sentence".)

Temujin -

<i>Maybe I am not getting your point but you do know there are private sector bureaucracies with procurement officers, right?</i>

That may very well be so :-) Nonetheless, Mr Manley isn't advising me of anything, yet he receives a daily salary that is three to five times what mine is (depending on how good of a day I'm having!), and we all have to foot the bill. Now I know that my meager contributions to the taxman isn't close to what some other have to "contribute", but I still cannot help but get miffed by the lavishness bestown upon anyone associated in the public sector.

Alan -

I think you have a misunderstanding of Mr. Manley's likely private practice rates. If you want to make a good living be a consultant to the private sector. That is where you get by far the best hourly rates and generous scoping of tasks.

sean liddle -

Being a consultant, I make less that what a doctor makes and less than what a doctor makes. I am jealous of their nicer cars and nicer homes and cottages but I do not begrudge them what they make because it was my choice to not become a doctor or a lawyer. You also need to take into account that a charge out rate is not take home pay. a percentage goes to pay bills, fees of admin people, taxes, office rental space, bribes and hookers etc. $150 an hour chargeout rate translates into about $60 an hour pay, which is about $125k/year. Pretty average for upper management of a consultancy.

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