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Sean Liddle -

Not to sound cold, but perhaps if the guy wasn't tossing chairs about and acting like a caveman the cops wouldn't have felt the need to subdue him the way they did. I don't care if someone is from Novosibirsk or Toledo Ohio, its not like they were caning him for 10 hours. Methinks if you show up in a foreign land, you arrange for someone to meet you OR you have a phrasebook or three with you, AND all teh proper paperwork and yo are polite to the people in authority. The Tazer was only a catalyst, it didn't kill him.

sean liddle -

Yep, seen it. Stand by my statement.

I am sure the vast majority of wife beaters stop beating their wives as soon as the cops show up which doesn't mean the police should smile and crack jokes with him, they should smack him around a bit and toss him in a cruiser headfirst. I am a firm believer that people for the most part are not arrested, accused of murder, convicted of rape or tazered by police during an arrest unless they have put themselves in a position whereby the authorities honestly believe it is in the best interest of society to lock em up or do such things to them. Personally, I'd rather see a few "innocent" or semi-innocent people arrested, accused or tazed or whatever it takes if it means more criminals are caught.

If they guy was here trafficking drugs would people be up in arms over what happened? No. If he was an big angry looking black man in baggy pants, backwards hat and six pounds of gold chains would they? Not likely. White guy, relatively well dressed, here to see his mother, acts like a caveman, gets tazed and his body reacts badly to it. I am sure there are people who have histaminal reactions to peppersprray, doesn't mean it should be banned either.

A tazer is a tool, like a baton or a firearm, and doesn't kill people directly.

Hans -

Geezuz Sean. Let's just Tazer everybody that looks like they might cause trouble. We'd save money on handcuffs.

A nail gun is a tool too. I can use it to subdue a troublemaker or I can talk to the troublemaker, ascertain the source of the trouble, ease the troublemakers state of mind, eliminate the violence from the situation and then process the troublemaker through the various layers of authority that I represent without resorting to violence myself. Either way the situation is dealt with. The first way the troublemaker ends up with a few nails in his head, though.

Alan -

Good Lord. There was a Polish speaking customs officer not kept on the matter throughout the ten hours before the death.

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