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Don -

"I met up with some bloggers this week and went over all the things that never panned out: video blogging, podcasting, pervasive citizen journalism."

Perhaps a premature articulation Alan.

Check out the live video tream from PodCamp Toronto this weekend: http://podcamptoronto.pbwiki.com/Schedule

And plan on attending the second annual Podcasters Across Borders conference right here in Old Stones Central in late June:
http://www.podcastersacrossborders.com/?p=54

Alan -

With great respect, Don, hobbyists are all fine and good but podcasting has not changed the world of blogging as was promised to me in 2003 and 2004. I would like to have my opinion changed (as always) but do not see the phenomena sweeping the landscape. <p><i>And</i> (while I am at it and nothing to do with you) I think hi-jacking calling audio files produced by news services as "podcasting" is a bit much. That was around long before RSS or iPod-like-objects and grabbing that into the definition can smack of guru-ism gone wild seeking to prove its own worth (again I speak of others.) <p>What I am referring to is peer-to-many-peers audio posting. What proves it for me is the lack of audio comments. I want to leave raspberries and Bronx cheers but no one wants that apparently.

cm -

Well, no, but could that perhaps be because that would make you more real than your text-only posts? Although I suppose that doesn't explain the phenomenon of YouTube, does it, as that is even more real than sound-only. Regardless, web 2.0 is one of those things that I am resigned to never understanding.

Hans -

"...the next big thing - whatever the venture capitalists will believe that is in 2016. Whatever it will be...will they call it Web 3.0?"

Wow. This Web 3.0 thing sounds awesome! Al, can you tell me more about it and how to get in on it?

;)

Alan -

Smart move, Hans. I would offer you shares but I think you are man enough for a franchise of your own. I can send you the paperwork.

Darcey -

Apparently somebody is against the word "progressive". Things do develop and change and we've all witnessed growth. To kick out an "instance" within a growing cycle is wrong, because you condemn the growth.

Alan just came to annoy you back a little heh heh ;-)

Alan -

Hmmm...Apparently I have sown seeds somewhere. I think if you were in my doing circle not my yapping one you would see that I am not against growth - but that is an inevitable side effect of beer blogging.

gorthos -

cm: I had to look it up because the term has been bugging me for a while. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0 ) so in the end I see it only as a term proffered and promoted by business means to turn what is just yet anoter change, regardless of how successful or temporary, in the ways people transfer information and collude.. Its a conspiracy baby.. the suits created the term. Down with the suits..

And podcasting.. meh.. I am SO disinterested in fillling in my walking, running, pondering time LISTENING to people yack while I already spend such a long and wasteful time READING their yackings, I see its death soonish..

Alan -

This is my favorite web 2.0 analysis.

gorthos -

How revealing yet simplistic in its presentation...

Don -

All right Web 2.0 contrarians, it's feeding time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE&eurl=

ALan -

Kinda odd, Don, having an argument in favour of W2.0 without hypertext or embed ;-) <p>Here it is for the non-cut-and-paste fans.<p><center><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6gmP4nk0EOE"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6gmP4nk0EOE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object></a></center><p>Interesting but entirely forgets the work of Vannevar Bush.<p>But the big questions still remain:<ul><li>If a blog is born twice a second, how many die?</li><li>Is this W2.0 not all the structuring of nothingness, a huge Seinfeldian mass of nothing with no one yet getting the joke (least of all VCs) that is no longer reliable through both its lack of indexing to find the best source and unauthorativeness so that even if the best is found we do not know if it is true?</li><li>Where is my jetpack?</li></ul>

gorthos -

Jetpack? I want my freaking pleasure-droid that cleans the french fries out of the car .

NYCO -

Here is a Youtube video from the Post-Standard on blogging and citizen journalism. (I do note that this opinion on it contains a "real-world" component.)<p><center>

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9QYJ6-VtuKo"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9QYJ6-VtuKo" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object></center><p>[Ed.: <i>note the shameless plug for NYCO - justly deserved, too.</i>]

Jay Currie -

I've never really got the Web 2.0 hype (but, again, back when algore was inventing the net I was pretty sure no one would remember addresses like http://www.genx40.com/archives/2007/february/web20valuations#replies. Silly me, the machine does it.)

Podcasting and video are fabulous for really, really limited, on demand applications. If I want to see the whites of a CFO's eyes as he answers questions on a quarterly conference call video is great.

I am inclined to think that we are just beginning to see the real dimensions of the text based internet. Between Google and Wikipedia a rather significant portion of human knowledge is available in ways we are only just now discovering.

While this does not track exactly, I would say the 1986-2000 period of the net was black and white television, 2001-now is the introduction of colour; but the next stage will be exploring all the things you can do with the technology. The 2.0 mashups are just the surface. We have not yet seen what a generation of kids who grew up with mice in their hands, massive gaming, Google for homework and scripts for fun are going to come up with. (And I am rather afraid I will not understand that thing or things in any event.)

For a twenty year set of technologies the pc/internet thing has done pretty well on the "completely revolutionizes every aspect of society" front. And we have not yet really met the clickit generation who have been raised by these machines and in a completely connected environment.

Alan -

I have my locker filled with the same stock answers but there has been gaming kids since I was the gaming kid in the late 70s and human knowledge has always been readily available.

But you know I think that. What interests me recently is that the speed of the introduction of novelty is outstripping the speed of adoption. So when I read about a law firm as I just did winning some certificate or award for having a great video podcast, it is not proof to me of acceptance so much as irrelevance - just find a law firm actually blogging on a constant and meaningful basis. That is so 2005. Things are being altered, amended and improved before anyone can make any practical use of them.

Which makes me fear I am past my jetpack opportunity. That was likely there in mid-October 2006 or so.

Alan -

Example:<blockquote class="smalltext">"...The other one that I really think should be exciting lawyers, and doesn't seem to have caught fire yet in the legal community is Google AdWords. If you do a Google search, you'll get the usual results on the left-hand side of the page, and then Google AdWords, where people have paid for placement based on keywords on the right-hand side. I have tested it and in many communities, no lawyer has taken the opportunity to list themselves and their practice areas using Google AdWords. This is a great way to be distinctive on the Web.</blockquote>This is from the Jan-Feb issue of <i>National</i>, the Canadian Gar Association magazine. Here comes the future of the recent past!<p>And doesn't it strike you sometimes that the advances in information technology have a lot to do with something related to style and the need for built in redundancy to ensure there is a sale to come in the 18 month cycle? What really can I do now that I could not do in 2003 or 1998 <i>that makes a difference</i> to me?

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