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ry -

"The government of the United States is of the latter description. The powers of the legislature are defined and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken or forgotten, the constitution is written."

This strikes me as a disctinctly Originalist/Constructionist sentiment, Al. Pasricularly when Marshall cites the Con as the limiter on why he cannot force Marbury's commission to be coughed up and the role of the judiciary. So I still would like how you get from this to living tree being the correct legal theory instead of being one of two or three competing legal theories; each with validity).

Judicial Review seems a bit stickier because I'm speaking vernacular and your speaking jargon. I'm not sure I can learn your jargon fast enough and I don't think you're really able to come down to vernacular. Not impasse, but a bump in the road this discussion is.

Alan -

Because he makes it up. The creation of originalism, if that is what happens, is through a living tree act. The Court created its own status through the application of judge-made law that no one now refutes.

ry -

ARgghhh. But he cites two very specific sections of the COn in his opinion. One pertaining to the powers of the President(that the outgoing President was within his powers to make the appointment) and the other about what the judiciary can do. Where is living tree in that? Article 3 section 2: "The judicial power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this COnstitution, the Laws of the United States, adn Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority--..."
Does this or does this not say what Marbury said? So is it accurate to say, 'Marshall made it up via living tree!" I don't think so. He referenced something. He didn't draw something from out of thin air. Look at the totality. Specific sections say what Congress can do. Others say there what the Judiciary can do. Marshall re-iterates both. Living Tree? I donna falla.

ALan -

You are showing your bias now. No one takes it from thin air. That is the point. There is no such thing as strict construction as it is all hat hanging on the weakness and opportunity of words and there is also no such thing as judicial activism as it is all based on the text.

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