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Hans -

Some good lines:

--"What have we given up due to the dilution? Audio fidelity in favour of tiny ear plugs. The ability to value excellence in favour of the ability to value what we choose or, worse, what we do."

--"All it takes is for a new self-flattering toy or medium to come along to make ourselves earnestly believe we must have it. And so with politics - we are so determined to be a vital player in the administration of government that we value our whim is as good as a policy borne of
the toil of hundreds and the rulings of decades."

--"We can forget sometimes that there was life and community and many of the same problems in 2000, 1999 and before. We trick ourselves that all has been changed."

I also like the Bruce Springsteen reference but I'm not sure its apt.

I see what you're saying: we've got technology, but no content; because we blog, we think we're all experts now on everything including politics.

You also identify the rise in networked technology and fear of terrorism as the two main vectors in current North American zeitgeist, which I think is accurate.

I see where you are going but I don't know if you connected all the dots here.

Finally, While The Forest Rangers was before my time too, they had reruns sporadically on CBC in the 70s and I was fan. Plus, the kids on it had cool names like "Zeke"!

Alan -

All good. I know it is not tied up at all. But the Springsteen line's point was this: there used to be dropping out of the scene, acceptance that what others proclaim and follow is all junk. The full line is something like "it's a town full of losers and we're pulling outta here to win". There is such homogeneity now I don't know if that is valued anymore, the rebel against the suits or in these times against the iPod and the clenched sphinter.

Hans -

Oh, don't get me wrong, I love the line. The whole song in fact is very punk in a DIY ethic sort of way. (Although musically much more theatrical). But I digress.

Alan -

I believe it to be the finest crossing of opera with the work of Meatloaf.

Hans -

...and I thought I was digressing....

ry -

Hmmm, I was cool with the essay but the further 'there used to be golden times' commentary is leaving me cold. Maybe one can say that Emo is just Prog Rock with a new title, like Grunge was a new title for rock music. But homogeneity as far as the eye can see? O'Captain, my Captain I don't see it that way from my position on the Hill. Maybe this is why the Love Generation said that nobody over thirty was to be trusted---they're jaded to the point of seeing homogeneity?
I dunno Al. There's still lots of little counter cultures and enclaves for them. More so than in the past. Punk still lives. Indie rock die hards. Talk radio. Blogs that are essentially self defining tribes(the Kosacks and the Freepers). Celebutaunts and their hangers on. Goth. Granola Hippies living in Humbolt, CA. Etc.
When I look back at history I see much more monolithic counter cultures. Ones that just substituted one orthodoxy with another. I don't see that today. Or is it that the decade of living that seperates us hasn't shown me the same trends?(again, not argumentative or accusatory, but inquisitive in nature).
Is it possible that the similarity of tools(we all used walkmen at one point---and made bootleg tapes of each others albums, even of stuff like The Beat's 'Stand Down Margaret' got included--- is that really much different than the iPod with it's mass cache of songs allowing the same thing) doesn't really mean 'same bland crap' any more now than it did then(because you also had people bootlegging Judas Priest's 'Turbo Lover' and getting that Robb Halford was talking about manlove back then along with those that didn't get it)?

Or have I missed it entirely, that you're railing against militant individualism as the new orthodoxy parading itself as counter culture(Cake: Excess ain't rebellion.)? Are you saying that Ayn Rand got the last laugh and we're regretting it?
I'm not sure I grok, Al.

ry -

Adendum: the little counter cultures are orthodoxies, but they aren't vast. Just as doctrinaire, but not as big. Does that help make what I was saying make sense? There's lots of little ones, each with their own little tent; instead of one big tent trying to encompass them all.

Alan -

Wouldn't it be closer to say that we have each now been assumed into a sub-culture and it is not conceivable to individually opt out. <p>And it is, as always, those pointing at Ayn Rand, who have the last laugh as her ideas for what they are worth are now spouted as gospel by a large band of simpering yesmen abiding by a belief system unthinkingly.

ry -

"Wouldn't it be closer to say that we have each now been assumed into a sub-culture and it is not conceivable to individually opt out. "
I don't know. I'm not sure that that's the case, but I could be wrong. I see it more as I'm able to come here and use certain facets of my personality. Others at Argghhh!. Still others at school. I see it as you could point to multiple groups I am part of, but I don't see them as defining me.
I see only three things really defining you, Al: Husband, male, and father. That's it. All else is hobbies, not really an assumption of a role in a sub culture. Not even blogging.
I see it that way for most people now days too. Not just the two of us. There are those that are consumed by a part of a subculture---like the Kosacks or Freepers, Maureen Dowd and Ann Coulter, conservative and liberal--- but most of us just stick our head in the door to see what's going on, maybe come in to sit for a while, but never fully commit to a sub-culture.
But could I opt out of this?
That's kinda like asking if there's free will, ain't it? Could I choose to force myself into one of the sub-cultures, and still be happy? I dunno. Maybe that's why most sub-cultures are so angst ridden? People have to sublimate so much of themselves to trully be part, to gain acceptance, and it is one of those things that just eats at 'em? I dunno. In this you're the teacher and I'm the student.

ry -

Oh, and I'm not a RAndian(for crying out loud, I'm Catholic!, how could I buy into Rand?). Maybe a Rationalist, a really bad one(I'm also a bad Catholic), if you really want to have a label. But not a Randian. I just tend to run into lots of them or those who operate along those lines.
It's just that I'm also seeing lots of Randian philosophy in the pop culture. the 'I gots ta gets mine' of urban culture. The me-me-me-ism of celebutaunts. The 'let them eat cake' of the rich kids in toney places of NY and LA. It's all the dark side of Ayn. Unfortunately, 'self actualization' seems to have to pay homage to Ayn too.

Hans -

"Wouldn't it be closer to say that we have each now been assumed into a sub-culture and it is not conceivable to individually opt out."

I think that's exactly right, Al. That's why I hated living in Toronto. If people could ascribe your dress or behaviour to a certain sub-culture they were unable and unwilling to interact with you. If you didn't fit into mass media prescribed pre-conceptions you were a ghost. Big city folks were conditioned into not being able to understand or deal with individuality. It was quite depressing (especially trying to meet chicks!). There were few exceptions that I found and these people are fascinatingly unique people. But for the most part, I just wanted to move back to PEI where, for all its faults, you are understood and dealt with on an individual basis. Like John Cougar said: I can be MYSELF in the small town.

Hans -

dang. that should read "could NOT ascribe".

Alan -

That is interesting as that was only way of looking at my dissatisfaction with PEI - failure to conform. I got the "weirdo" dirty PEI look a few too many times. I would suggest that the formula is "one can be oneself in one's own hometown if you are lucky not to come from a town full of losers."

Hans -

Yeah, it is kind of counter-intuitive that a small town can be more accepting than the big city, but maybe it does help if you do come from that small town.

cm -

<i>If you didn't fit into mass media prescribed pre-conceptions you were a ghost</i>

Then I guess I'm aiming for ghosthood. Which makes sense in a way, as anonymity is the reason I live in a high-rise in the city.

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