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David Janes -

Grab some precidents. I assume these will be mostly English stuff. I suspect there'll be lots of stuff almost exactly analogous to what's happening today: religious groups (Catholics, Puritans) trying to overthrow the crown by use of violence.

Flea -

When I was looking at this stuff the other week one passage stood out. A person can commit treason when s/he "assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are."

So, we do not need everyone to agree a state of war, let alone assault the person of Her Majesty, for an act of treason. The tricky bit is that "country whose forces they are" that has lead the Americans into their Civil War era "enemy combatant" category. Something most people have yet to twig to is that barring the Saudi entity and the UAE (unless I am missing anybody else) nobody on Earth could declare war on the Taliban because, excepting the two aforementioned states, nobody recognized the Taliban as the government of Afghanistan. Still less so does anyone accept an NGO like al-Qaeda as a state actor. It is difficult to see how anyone fighting under bin Laden's "banner" could be defined in law as fighting for a country.

Though maybe a country does not need to be a state... though this still presents a problem given al-Qaeda is a thoroughly globalized, trans-national NGO.

So. What to do? My post called for treason rather than deportation in those cases when an act of treachery is involved. But I am just as happy to make use of existing statutes on piracy for those non-state actors who levy war on the sovereign power.

Alan -

Yes, that phrase "any armed forces" is very interesting and that is for high treason...something very plummy about <i>high</i> treason. <p>A person who assists "any armed force" where Canada is involved in hostilities commits high treason. Canada is engaged in hostilites in Afghanistan against Al Queda and a terrorist here who could be tied to Afghanistan would risk high treason. Otherwise, I have no doubt that run of the mill treason applies to Al Queda. And as you say, deportation is not only cowardly but useless.

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