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David Janes -

Wind power may actually work in PEI, because
(1) not a large population
(2) the population is somewhat isolated, even from each other
(3) the population is not going to grow

It won't work in Ontario, for the negation of the above reasons.

One thing to keep in mind is _wind power is expensive_, though costs may be reduced through scale if society (in general) picks up on it in a big way.

The other problem with wind power is that it doesn't produce electricity in the way people use it. Power production has to be _exactly_ matched at all times to power consumption. This is actually quite complicated to do under the best of circumstances. This means that you have to be able to "bleed" off power from wind generators if there is too much and draw in power from elsewhere if there isn't enough. Note that this is what makes a free market of _small_ electricity producers difficult to do.

David Janes -

The 1 tower in Toronto at the CNE provides power for 400 houses, at the best of times.

Alan -

That is true that there cannot be true isolation from the grid but only net give and draw. This is good physics as well as good service. The problem PEI faces is the cost of any power infrastructure. Building a gas pipe and in province 200 megawatt generator - the last wacky plan - costs more that 200 one megawatt wind turbines - and required payment for the power source. Wind does not. That being the case, the private enterprise opportunity, which Irving was apparently willing to take on as a business risk, should be reasonable and available. Irving loves verticle integration and is a key electric user through its sppud processing. The risk to the local monopolists is allowing big users to self-supply thus ruining their "unending keg party of the captured purchaser."

Toby Rockwell -

Question from a dumb USer, but how important is the NIMBY factor going to be?
(Not in my back yard, in case that's a national acronym)

There were tentative plans afoot to set up windpower that would have powered Cape Cod and a bit more of Eastern Massachusetts, but the whole thing got Keboshed basically because it would have mildly impacted the view of people on Marthas Vineyard and the Cape (entry house $1M+), and possibly disturbed sailing in a small area (near a well connected yacht club).

Alan -

Have a look at this discussion of on the CityFiltre for Charlottetown for some sense of the NIMBY effect on PEI, Toby.

Power Blackout -

Sure windpower will work in Ontario.

Just put it outside of Queen's Park or Toronto City Hall!
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