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Mike -

Everyone remembers The Pop Shoppe after all. (It wasn't The Soda Shoppe). Eddie Shack as spokesman; cutting out the retail distributer. Kind of an ahead-of-their-time operation, but they had a good run. I'd patronize them if they brought it back.

"The Rise and Fall of The Pop Shoppe"
http://www.pww.on.ca/shoppe.htm

Then again, Kim Mitchell was singing about going for a soda. I'd be interested in seeing the Cdn version of the map. Funny how the Nova Scotia vernacular would match that of the US midwest and western states, but not New England.

David Janes -

Strange coincidences:

(1)
Alan posts something to my blog that reminds my of a line from _Repo Man_ about how your thinking about something ("Shrimp Platter") and then someone says it ("Shrimp", or "Platter", or "Shrimp Platter")

(2)
Last week while I was in Newfieland, we were having a discussion of our favorite Pop Shoppe flavours.

(3)
Last night on Jeopardy they were taking about something banned in California schools. "Pop" says I; "Soft Drinks" says wife; "Soda" says Alex.

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BTW: if you take one of the words, say "Soda" and you draw lines on the map delimiting where 10% use it, 20% user it and so forth: these lines are called _isoglosses_.

Alan -

Pop Shoppe at the Greenwood Mall circa 1975 memories. Lugging the big plastic crate back full of empties. I think it was great training for beer. Best flavours were black cherry and the Draino-like grapefruit.

Cyn -

Pop Shoppe on Mountain Road in Moncton, right beside the bowling alley. Saturday morning, jump in the station wagon with Dad with the empties rattling in the back...and hope to gawd that he lets me choose something other than his preferred club soda or gingerale.

Alan -

Available on eBay now:<p><img src="images/2004b/popshoppe.jpg">

blork -

As a technical writer, I strive for precision in terminology, so it always freaks me out when people are very imprecise. "Soda" and "pop" are both acceptable, because they're derived from the older "soda pop." But "soft drink" is too vague ... it simply means "no alcohol," so orange juice and Perrier are also soft drinks but they're not "soda pops." The worst is the generic use of "coke." Where the Hell did that come from? How can you possibly call a 7-Up or an Orange Crush a "Coke?" That's just retarded!

Alan -

Good points but I think soft drink served a purpose in boozier times when the 50-50 option was a soft or hard drink. Now that the puritans are in charge more and more, the kindness of alcohol offering is taboo and we are to consider it perhaps a 5% option amongst the close circle. We have invented inhospitable hospitality.

David Janes -

I think soft drink is an OK name for pop/soda -- you're over analyzing the specific words used to encode the idea. Coke is just crazy, obviously, though maybe that's all they drink? Carbonated Beverage, anyone?

Alan -

As opposed to the UK term "squash"?

Ben -

Growing up in the Maritimes I always, always called it pop, as did the rest of my family. We frequented the same Pop Shoppe as Cyn in Moncton.

Nils Ling -

Pop Shoppe on the corner of Ness and College in St. James (Winnipeg, now). How I developed a life-long sugar addiction (now shed, along with 50 plus pounds) is beyond me, given I had to choke down the sewage they pumped out. But drink it I did, because Dad was damned if he was going to pay 29 cents a bottle for "32 ounces of goddamned sugar water!"

I vowed my kids would never have to touch Cragmont Cola or other generic pop. And they never have - mostly because they were too smart to get hooked.

Nils Ling -

By the way, somebody took the time to ask 124,000 people what they call soda pop. Am I the only one who sees some sort of government grant at play here? Jaysus.

David Janes -

It was probably part of a survey of words in general and the legwork done by university students. As frivolous as it sounds, it's linguistically and historically interesting.

Story has it that you can identify within 50 miles of where as person lives (or had their formative years) by checking the pronounciation of just 10 words [I assume the words are not some variant of "where do you live?"]

Ale Fan -

If you asked for soda in the UK you'd get a fizzy drink with a slight taste of Bi-Carb. It's a mixer to go with Whisky, Campari et al.

I suspect it depends on where you are in the UK but pop, fizzy, fizzy-pop or fizzy-drink would do - but people tend to refer to something a bit more specific like lemonade or coke.

If someone asked me if I wanted a soft drink I'd assume they were offering me squash.

Gosh I feel thirsty !

Alan -

Soda in that sense in Canada is called "club soda". I think in the states that might be seltzer-water but perhaps that is just an older word for it.

quickey -

whad up yo. im a gansta from the hood!!

Alan -

And I'm a elf prince. Grand to meet you.

Haldir -

"I bring word from Elrond of Rivendell. An alliance once existed between Elves and Men. Long ago we fought and died together. We come to honour that allegiance."

Alan -

Actually, being McLeod, we have a proper claim into the other word, our family marrying into the Faery folk in the middle ages. No fiction of an Oxford scholar. People that know me swear I have the look of the little people.

Alan -

Mix Master DJ Flea has spotted the fact that Pop Shoppe is apparently giving it another go! Or at least they have set up a web site.

Alan -

Oh noooooo!!!<p>Its delivered to your home at $2.16 for a small bottle in cases of 12.

David -

I am from an area where soda pop is normally refered to as Coke, which is rediculous. I however call it soda. I try to think of the person who first called it soda pop and what they were thinking. Soda being the substance and pop being the sound heard when opening the beverage. So to me the only abbreviation should be soda....or simply just call it soda pop.

Pete G -

In Toronto, Ontario it is mostly pop. Soda is soda water. I was watching an episode of Gilmore Girls (accept it, move on) and one of the guys was from Chicago and he referred to a soft drink as 'pop', explaining that in Chicago they say pop and not soda. This was a shock as I always thought that soda was 'American' and pop was 'Canadian'. Hmph, go figure. x

David -

Looks like your new system is easier to crack than your old one.

Alan -

I think it is more than that - there's only about 10% getting through. We are having a manual spam attack.